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New Mac, the Thanatos
« on: 04. August 2017, 07:42:30 »
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Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
« Reply #1 on: 04. August 2017, 07:46:43 »
It had a 360° Torso Twist in in MW3. I do not think it will have the same Ratio in MWO. But I find the Chassis design quite nice, although the torso energy hardpoints seem to be very low mounted.... sadly.


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Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
« Reply #2 on: 04. August 2017, 08:29:45 »
Upsides:
IS 75 tonner with many JJ and ECM on each variant!
Good weapon distribution and good engine ratings.
Some variants have good build options.

Downsides:
HUGE Sidetorsos to shoot you in half.
Probably low armor when you look at engines and weapon capacity.
Very low weapon mounts throughout, so it will be hard to utilize that JJs for sniping or for getting angles (since you hit the floor more than the enemy in steep angles).

So currently I am having mixed feelings and dont know if I buy into it. Might just get the best variant when it becomes available for C-Bills.
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Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
« Reply #3 on: 04. August 2017, 13:11:13 »
Adding to the downsides: Most of the hardpoints are horizontally rather far from the cockpit. The arms are very broad. More chances for your precious ammo to hit walls, teammates in the fire line or other annoyances... Plus: only vertical actuators for the arms.

On the other side: The 4P-Variant packs 4 Energy-Slots in L+R-Torso. If the second torso-hardpoint is located above the one shown on the pictures, it could get very decent. Maybe like an smaller, but fatter version of the Grasshopper with ECM. :mrgreen:

Armorratings seem to be also comparable with those of the Grasshopper. Some variants got a little more, most a little less. So yeah, i guess tankyness will not be the first asset of this Mech. It's more the ECM+whatever you like versatility. You get Boats for everything: Missiles, Ballistic and Energy. But (!!!) only if you choose Reinforcements- and Hero-Addon. The Standard-variants look more like balanced allrounders (maybe with exeption of the 4P).
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    Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
    « Reply #4 on: 04. August 2017, 20:08:04 »
    Dont know what to think about it. But it seems the first chassis, where every variant is ECM-cabable.
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    Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
    « Reply #5 on: 04. August 2017, 21:33:00 »
    Zum Glück ist das Ding kein Omnimech geworden obwohl die
    Entwicklung des "Thanatos" ja ursprünglich mal so begann!
     :denk:
    Aber auch so ist die Kiste sicher ganz brauchbar und ich bin
    mir relativ sicher, das dieser Mech schnell viele der bisher
    genutzten 70-80t der IS gut ergänzen bzw. auch verdrängen
    wird... so er nicht zu träge wird, springt wie ein Backstein
    und mit viel Pech deutlich zu breit gerät.
     :gaga:
    Irgendwie ist für "Laser- und Raketen-Liebhaber" jede Menge
    dabei und auch für die eine oder andere fette Kanone findet
    sich da noch ab und zu mal ein Platz. Dazu ein paar Jumpjets
    und auch mal ein Light-Engine bei diversen Varianten und am
    Ende sogar noch ECM-fähig... NETT!
     :floet:
    OK, realistisch betrachtet kann der gar nicht so viele schwere
    Waffen tragen wenn weil ja Tonnage oder freie Slots (je nach
    Struktur und Panzerung) aber schon mal beim ganz kurzen
    Betrachten der angebotenen Standard-Varianten kommt man
    irgendwie auf ganz "dumme" Ideen!
     :fies:

    Tja... da bleibt ja mal abzuwarten, was uns die Macher von
    MWO als nächstes so aus der 3067er Zeitschiene anbieten -
    ich tippe ja mal... bei der IS - nach "Osiris", "Uziel" und bald
    "Thanatos" auf den  "Argus", "Hellspawn", "Templar", "Fafnir"
    und bei den Clans nach der "Mad Cat II" auf "Hellion" und
    vlt. auch noch "Crimson Langur".^^
     :?:
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    Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
    « Reply #6 on: 04. August 2017, 22:05:26 »
    Love it. Will buy Collector's + Hero , no-brainer

    edit: 5x JJ = ~28m jump distance == good and "only" 5 tons. ECM across the board. Although limited in hardpoint amount and variety, similar to e.g. the Marauder, the Warhawk or the Summoner. Max Engine Cap or max 360 engine makes this a pretty fast IS 75 ton mech with ECM and a limited amount of bigger weapons.

    Hero has 5x Missile Hardpoints in a single arm. I'd like to put SRM4s there.

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    Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
    « Reply #7 on: 15. November 2017, 11:15:56 »
    Did someone already test it? :denk:
    How are the hitboxes?
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    Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
    « Reply #8 on: 15. November 2017, 11:51:17 »
    It is okish.... Not so many hardpoints but very versatile. And it lacks the 360° Torso Twist from MW3... High Torso harpoints enable you to build a nice sneaky sniper.
    Hitboxes are ok, not as bad as the Marauder

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    Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
    « Reply #9 on: 15. November 2017, 14:28:16 »
    I like it...you can make it an IS Summoner with big engine and JJs or go for high podspace with that 65kph speed. And the variants offer various builds although hardpoint amount is fairly limited. Very flexible mech overall, therefore hard to build. You can do everything in it....as long as you don't need a high amount of hardpoints (e.g. pure energy laser vomit with 7-8 slots) for it. It's a mech with mixed loadout. You have to use arm hardpoints most of the time which is a "down" for many players...I rather like it for accuracy reasons and you can even use lower actuators for your AC20 (e.g. 4P) which is quite rare on IS side.

    In my matches I didn't experience a lack of durability so far....I consider it "average", no tank at all but not squishy either. Hitboxes seem better than the actual model suggests.

    Lorewise, I remember that it's design was derived from the Summoner/Thor....and in several aspects the Thanatos really is the IS Summoner. But you can remove all the JJ and the big engines and make it your standard 65kph 75ton IS heavy if you want to. Or go for that XL 400 and 93kph with 5x JJ and ECM....a more unique build you can't do with other heavies.

    P.S.: I'm back, see you in TS

    edit: Check the agility values....4S and the Hero (the ones with higher engine cap) have better values. Most are on Orion-level (76° turn rate)while the 4S is more agile than a Thunderbolt with a pretty good 90° turn speed
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    Re: New Mac, the Thanatos
    « Reply #10 on: 15. November 2017, 20:23:45 »
    I made a 80+ kph, 4JJs dual ERPPC ECM Summoner and it works OK.
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